Attacking Siam crashes the game!

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Attacking Siam crashes the game!

Post by Snonskoid » April 6th, 2013, 3:28 am

I find that Siam in Blackwater's first magic attack causes my Eschalon 1 to "quit unexpectedly" every time, whether playing full- screen or windowed.
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Re: Attacking Siam crashes the game!

Post by Vroqren » April 6th, 2013, 9:32 am

While unfortunately, I do not know how to solve your problem, I do believe the speel he attacks with is Supernova. Hopefully that helps someone discover the source of the bug.

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Re: Attacking Siam crashes the game!

Post by Kreador Freeaxe » April 6th, 2013, 11:13 am

Snonskoid wrote:I find that Siam in Blackwater's first magic attack causes my Eschalon 1 to "quit unexpectedly" every time, whether playing full- screen or windowed.
Interesting?
(MacOs 10.5.8, 2.33 GHz Intel Core 2...)
Check your game version? Did you get the game from the Basilisk Games store or a different vendor? The game crashing when Siam attacks was a bug in an earlier version of the game but was fixed, I think, in 1.04. The correct current version is 1.06 (though Steam may still say 1.05 on its versions, at least someone reported that).
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Re: Attacking Siam crashes the game!

Post by Kreador Freeaxe » April 6th, 2013, 4:12 pm

Prismatic Maelstrom wrote:I've attacked Siam a handful of times a few minutes ago and his attack causes the game to crash with the error message "EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION". Playing with Windows Vista, version 1.06 of Book I bought from Basilisk Games.
Huh. I guess it came back. Damn. That's annoying. Hopefully BW knows what causes it so he can patch it quickly. I know none of us want to divert him from Book III development.
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Re: Attacking Siam crashes the game!

Post by Vroqren » April 6th, 2013, 4:15 pm

Solution: Don't kill Siam.
That way the game doesn't crash, and BW continues work on Book III

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Re: Attacking Siam crashes the game!

Post by Kreador Freeaxe » April 6th, 2013, 4:18 pm

Vroqren wrote:Solution: Don't kill Siam.
That way the game doesn't crash, and BW continues work on Book III
If you can kill Siam very quickly, or otherwise ensure that he doesn't get to cast on you, it's fine. The problem, I'm sure, comes from picking up loose objects in his sight line or otherwise enraging the citizenry of Blackwater.
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Re: Attacking Siam crashes the game!

Post by Vroqren » April 6th, 2013, 5:03 pm

It's possible that I still have my Mac copy, but I certainly don't have access to it right now. If anyone else has it on Mac, it could be good to know if this bug is also occurring on Mac (Or any other operating system).

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Re: Attacking Siam crashes the game!

Post by Lord_P » April 6th, 2013, 11:06 pm

The entire area of Blackwater seems to be cursed with EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION. Entering the map from the east can randomly cause this to happen, so save before venturing forth.

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Re: Attacking Siam crashes the game!

Post by Kreador Freeaxe » April 7th, 2013, 10:41 am

Prismatic Maelstrom wrote:
Kreador Freeaxe wrote:The problem, I'm sure, comes from picking up loose objects in his sight line or otherwise enraging the citizenry of Blackwater.
This doesn't appear to be the case. Using the map editor created by community member xolotl I placed Siam somewhere different but got the same error. I then removed all objects around the area and the same error happened.

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I wasn't clear. I'm sorry. The problem of Siam deciding you need to be attacked is not just caused by you attacking him. I'm sure the error occurs any time he tries to cast his spell, whatever the circumstances.
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Re: Attacking Siam crashes the game!

Post by Spencerbutch » April 8th, 2013, 2:22 am

if needed, i have book 1 for mac but as i havent even broken it out yet it might take a bit for me to get to the point where this bug is appearing. i guess i better get started on book 1 now :mrgreen:
vroqren wrote:Solution: Don't kill Siam.
That way the game doesn't crash, and BW continues work on Book III
that made me laugh out loud, and not much does that past midnight :lol:
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Re: Attacking Siam crashes the game!

Post by SpottedShroom » April 10th, 2013, 12:24 am

Confirmed on 1.06 and 1.05 Linux as well, where it crashes with a segmentation fault. There aren't any debugging symbols in the binary, so running it through a debugger doesn't produce useful information. Strace doesn't reveal much either, except that the crash happens before the game tries to load Siam's attack sound, sfx_cast_elem.

Also of note, none of the other casters seem to have this issue. I checked Erubor, Walter, and the Shadowmirk apprentices.

My next guess is the attack animation. I gave Siam the same appearance as Erubor, though, and he still crashes the game. Maybe it's the spell animation? Erubor and Walter have different spell attacks, but I can't see how that's defined in the entities CSV file, so I can't change it for Siam to test. In Book II, I think it's the "Sp Ability" column, but there doesn't seem to be a similar one in Book I.

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