silverkitty wrote:And...? It would somehow hurt you if the Amazon title got you Bow Weapons instead of whatever Weapons as a skill? is it totally impossible that it be both?
Yes, I know the "popular perception" of Amazons is just "any chick with a sword," but, seriously - does it somehow HURT us to be more than just what the populace thinks? I mean, why have hunger/thirst, weapon wear and tear, etc if we only care to cater to the lowest common denominator? The "popular conception" of Amazons in America is warped from their original meaning almost entirely because the American culture would rather discuss the gory details of serial murder than mention the word "breast" - because Americans are more comfortable discussing the fraking Holocaust than they are discussing what occurs naturally after puberty. But we can be better than popular conception. We can be _both_ things because it's a niche game and because the titles only "mean" anything at game start, there's really NO reason at all to call a female proficient with aught but bows an Amazon, except the reason if lazily following American puritanical cultural norms.
From
Wikipedia:
The Amazons were a legendary nation of female warriors in Greek mythology.
Amazon is an eponym, derived from the legend, for any woman warrior or athlete, including:
Amazon, nom de guerre of a Roman gladiatrix at Halicarnassus
Dahomey Amazons, an all-female regiment of the Kingdom of Dahomey
Amazon feminism, a branch of feminism that emphasizes female physical prowess
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More:
The Amazons (Greek: Ἀμαζόνες, Amazónes, singular Ἀμαζών, Amazōn) are a nation of all-female warriors in Classical and Greek mythology. Herodotus placed them in a region bordering Scythia in Sarmatia (modern territory of Ukraine). Other historiographers place them in Asia Minor or Libya.[1]
Notable queens of the Amazons are Penthesilea, who participated in the Trojan War, and her sister Hippolyta, whose magical girdle was the object of one of the labours of Hercules. Amazonian raiders were often depicted in battle with Greek warriors in amazonomachies in classical art.
The Amazons have become associated with various historical peoples throughout the Roman Empire period and Late Antiquity. In Roman historiography, there are various accounts of Amazon raids in Asia Minor. From the Early Modern period, their name has become a term for woman warriors in general.
Please excuse us Americans for associating the term "Amazon" with "female warrior" based on popular historical reference.
BW assigned weapons to titles, and titles somewhat based on Axiom/Class combinations. Since Piercing Weapons and Bows are Dexterity based, and "Fighters" are generally Strength based, he gave the "Amazon" title Bludgeoning weapons. I'm sure that "Amazon Warriors" were proficient with more than just the Bow and Spear.
For the record, I would prefer to talk about breasts until I'm blue in the face, as opposed to some tragic, past happenstance. But I guess that
is a "popular conception" about us Americans.
KillingMoon wrote:Well, the game wouldn't be hurt by giving the Amazons bows instead of knives if that fits in more with popular perception.
I guess CrazyBernie would be happy enough to give Rangers Bludgeoning Weapens, Fighters Lore, Rogues Bowskills etc., but it would raise a few eyebrows, and understandably, err... I think Rogues actually do get Bowskills, now that I think of it.
Well, I think that's wrong. There should be a Rogue-type that gets Hide in Shadows. Some skills are handed out more than once at setup, and some skills not at all. I would tweak that.
I don't disagree that it might be prudent for rogues to start out with some rogue-based skills, but I didn't entirely agree with the current Title/Skill assignment system. BW and some other testers liked my proposed system, but it was too late to implement so late in development.