The Drunken Lizard Pub

IJBall wrote:A couple of caveats:

1. First, is there any chance you can implement this system such that the kind of reagents you get by Foraging can be restricted by map (type), or are "map-specific". Again, one of my main concerns has always been that you could Forage for reagents in places that you shouldn't be able to (e.g. esp. dungeons), or as Kreedor pointed out that you could get a reagent like Ambergris on a "non-beachfront" map.
2. My other main concern has always been with Foraging as a "money generator" (and this being somewhat "game breaking")... But maybe there's no way to avoid that? Still, it would be good if that aspect (the money generating-part) of Foraging could be limited somehow.

And I agree with Randomizer on the Create Food/Draw Water spells, but my suggestion for dealing with that was put into the Book III Wishlist long-ago...

For Book III, we are playing around with the idea of foraging working only while moving- as you travel, you forage from the bushes and plants you find along the way. When you camp, you are resting, not out foraging through the brush. Even if you were, you'd only find a limited amount of food and reagents in the immediate vicinity of your campsite.

BasiliskWrangler wrote:Would frequent camping + high Foraging skill be a significant exploit for this kind of character?

BasiliskWrangler wrote: For Book III, we are playing around with the idea of foraging working only while moving- as you travel, you forage from the bushes and plants you find along the way. When you camp, you are resting, not out foraging through the brush. Even if you were, you'd only find a limited amount of food and reagents in the immediate vicinity of your campsite.
Thoughts?

BasiliskWrangler wrote:Instead of delicious, valuable food, you receive a grey paste that is monetarily worthless, and offers only tiny increases in your hunger bar.

BasiliskWrangler wrote:FYI: Create Food to be replace[d] with Malachi's Gruel in Book III. Instead of delicious, valuable food, you receive a grey paste that is monetarily worthless, and offers only tiny increases in your hunger bar. Casting higher makes more of it, and better quality (more filling) but still unsellable.

Painted Lady wrote:

BasiliskWrangler wrote:Instead of delicious, valuable food, you receive a grey paste that is monetarily worthless, and offers only tiny increases in your hunger bar.

Wow, that sounds totally delicious. Or maybe not? Suddenly spider legs are looking better.

Dragonlady wrote:Hence floating ants in the soup. We had to eat it anyway. They gave a sharp, acidic peppery taste in case your wondering.

Prismatic Maelstrom wrote:

BasiliskWrangler wrote:Thoughts?

I like your ideas. People can still "grind" for alchemy ingredients but it will require more effort on their part. It will also encourage people to return to places they would usually only visit once or twice.

lochaber wrote:Hello.

Been lurking a bit, but haven't posted yet.

Just recently found these games, played through Book I, and am starting Book II now.

First off, I really enjoy them, and I'm quite glad to see someone is still making an oldschool rpg (with a linux version no less). It seems this genre is nearly extinct

As to foraging and create food, I'm not so sure it's broken- I had some trouble the first couple attempts, with my characters dying of starvation and getting all there equipment destroyed (I think these are interesting, and possibly important aspects to increase the 'realism' of games, but they aren't always intuitive, and can be troublesome for some builds/playstyles).
I think this is probably the closest we can approach to what the character's life is described as (fishing, selling the excess in town).

As to the foraging while traveling, I think that's currently covered with the reduced rate of hunger/thirst bar depletion. And I agree that it's easier to gather stuff while actually camped. Although, it does seem a bit... odd? that the same character can forage for reagents, patch up gear, and get a nap simultaneously. I don't know what sort of coding/programming challenges it would pose, but I think for added realism, to put some sort of camping apportionment window or something, where you dedicate what portion (or hours, whatever) of your rest you put towards repairing gear, foraging, or resting. So, like, you can still sit around camp and repair gear (and get normal mp/hp regen), or you can go foraging nearby (and get normal mp/hp regen), or you can get some rest, and get accelerated mp/hp regen, but you can't really do all 3 at once (but you could do, say, 2 hours foraging, 2 hours gear repair, and a 2 hour nap, etc.)

As to the Creat food spell, I understand wanting to limit to character sustenance only, and not allowing it to be used to generate revenue. Possibly instead of having it create an unsellable item, have it just add a certain amount to the hunger bar per level casting? (same could be done with draw water, though I'm not sure there is any exploits associated with that spell).

Again, great game, I'm glad you've made them, and I'm looking forward to Book III (once it's released, and I've completed Book II)

Kreador Freeaxe wrote:I kind of like the idea of "apportioning" camping time, but it might require a good bit more programming to add that. However it's done, a dedicated person can find a way to abuse the system, so I don't worry about it too much.