3 secret areas, a crux and an escape (spoilers)

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Re: 3 secret areas, a crux and an escape (spoilers)

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Yes
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Seawarden's Guild needs a powder keg next to the log wall segment
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In the condenser room there is a window to the lever for that chest
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Lever is on the south side of the river so explore river banks.
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Re: 3 secret areas, a crux and an escape (spoilers)

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Randomizer wrote:
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Seawarden's Guild needs a powder keg next to the log wall segment
It seems there are much more blast-able objects in E3
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In the condenser room there is a window to the lever for that chest
that was something new, I mean - the placement of the lever
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Lever is on the south side of the river so explore river banks.
I tend to switch everything I see and probably most of players do. It`s a nice but potentially frustrating exploit, to connect compulsive crpg switching with something nasty :P

However only one of those is really a Secret Area.
Still haven`t managed to find 4 missing secrets.
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Re: 3 secret areas, a crux and an escape (spoilers)

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severian wrote: that was something new, I mean - the placement of the lever
Indeed. I actually thought the only way to flip it was with Supernova.
I tend to switch everything I see and probably most of players do. It`s a nice but potentially frustrating exploit, to connect compulsive crpg switching with something nasty :P
Remind me to make a mod that includes a useless lever that just spawns more enemies in a later area.
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Re: 3 secret areas, a crux and an escape (spoilers)

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The chest in the Emayu Witch Lair is a secret area and the lever for the Greensmith cemetery is one too.

I'd like a mod where after you have been fighting your way through the dungeon, the lever drops you down to another monster filled level that you have to fight through to escape. :)
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Re: 3 secret areas, a crux and an escape (spoilers)

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For that you do need to waste a powder keg.

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Re: 3 secret areas, a crux and an escape (spoilers)

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Vroqren wrote:
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For that you do need to waste a powder keg.
Thanks! Figured that out right after I posted.
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Re: 3 secret areas, a crux and an escape (spoilers)

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Ok, I`ve managed to go as far, as 29 of 30 secrets.

I`m out of options - I went once again through every map, with Reveal Map on 5 level, Cartography 14 level.

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Is there a secret connected with the last chapter - The Grand Finale map ?
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Or anything connected with the Anvil - I`ve tried several spells, and also Crafting Hammer and Iron Ore.
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Or maybe something to do with funny looking trees or menhirs/spiecial giant rocks, altars or anything like that ?
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Re: 3 secret areas, a crux and an escape (spoilers)

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I have a full list of secret areas, extracted from the game data itself. Should I post it, or would people rather try to find them all on their own?
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Re: 3 secret areas, a crux and an escape (spoilers)

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Please post it -- you can use the spoiler fig leaf if you like. Thanks for compiling it!

On a related item, I think the maximum number of quests is 27, but two of them (linked to the Akadai Kingspawn) are mutually exclusive.
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SpottedShroom wrote:I have a full list of secret areas, extracted from the game data itself. Should I post it, or would people rather try to find them all on their own?
I agree. Please post it, I'm dying to find out where the missing three area's are.
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Re: 3 secret areas, a crux and an escape (spoilers)

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Post it, I`ve already found 29 by myself, the 30 one is now just frustrating me :P

As for some hints for everyone who wants to find secrets by themselves:
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A lot of secrets requires blasting things with kegs - wooden fences, both sturdy and fragile - can be blasted, allowing us to discover secrets.
Most of secrets require careful navigation on the edges of maps - usually there are some hidden passages on the corners.
Also be careful with illusonary walls - I recall at least 2 secrets using this, one in the Temple and one in the Castle
One secret requires some archery skill - bullseye.
Some require clicking levers or other objects that connect with walls or gates placed elsewhere on the map.
Some are pre-scripted and involve subquests.
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Re: 3 secret areas, a crux and an escape (spoilers)

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Here are all the maps the secret areas appear in, along with the "secret number" that appears in the game code. It should be pretty easy to figure out which ones you're missing, and if necessary I can give you coordinates for the one(s) you can't find.
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Weeping Mountain - 1
Rockhammer - 2, 7
Baasilt Dunes - 3
Rockhammer Mine - 4
Wrecked Ship, Level 2 - 5
Elderoak Forest - 6, 21, 22
Moonrise - 8, 9, 20
Moonrise Underground - 10
Mirkland - 11
East Mirkland - 12, 16, 23
Deadman's Strand - 13
Omentor - 14, 15
Castle by the Sea - 17
Castle Dungeon - 18
Macross Point - 19, 29
Witch's Lair - 24
Valley of the Wanderer - 25
Western Astral Range - 26
Oceana Lowlands - 27
Warlord's Pass - 28
Eastern Astral Range - 30
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Re: 3 secret areas, a crux and an escape (spoilers)

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The number 4 secret area was so hard to find and I had used Reveal Map on the whole level. I finally found it by brute force checking out the every little crevice.

Number 18 is obvious once I knew there was one there.

Thank you from saving me doing a head banging search of Omentor Temple because Spotted Shroom's text dump had a magically darkened path mentioned that I was looking for and couldn't find.
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Re: 3 secret areas, a crux and an escape (spoilers)

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Ssschah wrote:
helivoy wrote:Can someone point me to the list of secret areas you're discussing? Many thanks!

Also, I count 26 total quests. Does that sound right? Here's the list:
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Quest list

1. A Crux in Hand
2. Into the Wilds
3. A Hammer for Seamus (wrecked ship, mine lv 2)
4. Exterminator, at Your Service
5. Goblins Afoot
6. Collecting on a Debt
7. A Meeting with Lilith
8. The Blackened Bone Tavern
9. A Deal with Logi
10. A String of Pearls
11. A King’s Head
12. Cleaning up the Riff Raff
13. The Recovery of Miss Bimbles
14. The Sealed Letter 1
15. The Sealed Letter 2
16. The Teeth that Bite
17. The Meaning of the Note 1
18. The Meaning of the Note 2
19. A Meeting with Karamiklan
20. The Missing Magpie 1
21. The Missing Magpie 2
22. A-hunting We Will Go
23. A Tough Nut to Crack
24. Seeking Karamiklan’s Wisdom
25. The Curious Case of Edgar
26. The Curse of Bittersting
That seems correct. Also here's the list of secret areas Randomizer has compiled so far.
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Randomizer wrote:28 of 30 secret areas:
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Weeping Mountain - (26,160) basic oak chest - The Fabulous Adventures of Captain Hale
Rockhammer - (74,99) - basic oak chest - random gp
Rockhammer - (22,144) secret area - Pentagram with levers at (21,143)[A one extra Attribute point at next level-up] and (22,143) [S one extra skill point at next level-up] - only get one
Southern Boglands - Wrecked Ship Level 2 - (47,97) door - lock [5 - good iron] - sack - 50 gp
Baasilt Dunes - (21,81) - basic oak chest - RANDOM
Deadman's Strand - (34,8) barrel - 100 gp
Elderoak Forest - (85,145) - lever opens portcullis at (87,114) in Greensmith Cemetery
Elderoak Forest - (88,111) - inside crypt
Elderoak Forest - (88,172) - (88,175) heavy steel-banded chest -random gp, potion of invisibility III
Moonrise - (97,193) -
-- (97,180) heavy steel-banded chest - Trap [4 - Bixby's Noxious Cloud] - lock [3 - moderate quality - RANDOM
-- (95,178) barrel - RANDOM
-- (94,178) barrel - RANDOM
-- (91,178) tightly sealed ceramic storage vessel - random gp
-- (90,181) giant clam - pearl
-- (83,187) strange chest - engraved plate - The contents of this chest belong to you - empty
Moonrise - (55,54) - cemetery
Moonrise - (98,4) secret area at north end of blocked trade route - (97,8) giant clam - large diamond
Moonrise Underground - The Pit in Atrox Deep - (21,56)
Lair of the Emayu Witch - (60,65) dense, exotic alloy chest - RANDOM
Mirkland - (66,189) heavy steel-banded chest - RANDOM
East Mirkland Delta - (24,72) barrel - RANDOM
East Mirkland Delta - (48,67) secret area - smooth rock
East Mirkland Delta - 16,149) - rusting anvil
Castle by the Sea - (23,89) - message
Oceana Lowlands - (11,145) - inside Wizardtorium and Magick Crafter's Hostel
Macross Point - (20,132) heavy steel-banded chest - random gp
Macross Point - (14,3) - skeleton
Valley of the Wanderer - 4,13) fragile ceramic vessel - extra skill point at next level-up
Omentor Temple - (31,134) heavy steel-banded chest - RANDOM
Omentor Temple - 25,116) and (24,114) illusionary wall to (21,112) secret area
Omentor Temple - ??? to Abyssmal Plain (unconfirmed)
Western Astral Range - 2,62) secret area - West Astral Hostel
Warlord's Pass - (93,23) - to (93,26) sealed barrel [50] - vintage whiskey (8)
Eastern Astral Range - (3,106) inside Master Warren's Crypt
On that secret area list:
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I see the pentagram in Rockhammer, but no switches. If you mean the 2 by the tracks, they don't seem to do anything. BTW, how do you tell what your coordinates are?
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Re: 3 secret areas, a crux and an escape (spoilers)

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Spotter Shroom, thanks for the list! I've definitely not found Secret Area 4 in Rockhammer mine -- is it on level 1 or 2? Coordinates would be great!

Jaymann, if you're playing on a Mac, you can get coordinates displayed by pressing the tab key. The area with the two levels in located at the southern part of Rockhammer.
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