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I'm a little confused about what I can do with the Warmoth bow in terms of imbuing it. It already has +3 bow and +1 poison, so does that mean that I can only add 1 more enhancement? I can't put both to hit and damage enhancements on it? I've tried and it blows up! This wouldn't be a bug, would it?

Buckets wrote:I'm a little confused about what I can do with the Warmoth bow in terms of imbuing it. It already has +3 bow and +1 poison, so does that mean that I can only add 1 more enhancement? I can't put both to hit and damage enhancements on it? I've tried and it blows up! This wouldn't be a bug, would it?

I always sold this bow and never paid any attention. If it has what you said, then the only imbuing you can do is +X damage. If it is already both +3 to hit AND +3 damage. That's it, nothing more can be done.

It doesn't have +3 to hit; it has +3 bow. That adds +3 to my bow skill level. So I was still hoping I could add a to hit bonus and a damage bonus. Guess not...

Buckets wrote:It doesn't have +3 to hit; it has +3 bow. That adds +3 to my bow skill level. So I was still hoping I could add a to hit bonus and a damage bonus. Guess not...

Oh, I misunderstood. You, I think, can imbue it with either to hit or damage, but if it won't let you. Guess not. Shrug. Perhaps, it's because it is 'named'?

Dragonlady wrote: Oh, I misunderstood. You, I think, can imbue it with either to hit or damage, but if it won't let you. Guess not. Shrug. Perhaps, it's because it is 'named'?

I thought that in one of your earlier posts, you established the rule for enchanting, which I've found to be accurate. An item can have only 3 enchantments, regardless of which types. Since the bow already has 2, you can add only one more. You can do either +3 to hit, or +3 damage, but not both. Don't you wish this bow doesn't have +1 poison?

Yeah, it does not seem well planned that the named weapons -- something that is typically reserved for special, powerful items -- are almost all weaker than standard variants due to their inability to be imbued properly.

Some of them have decent bonuses especially the ones later in the game. A few let you improve them if you have enough alchemy.

Right, but the point is that a nonmagical melee weapon, you can always enchant +3 to hit, +3 to damage, +3 bonus damage. If a named weapon already has, say, +2 to damage and +1 poison damage, you can enchant +3 to hit but that's it. Right?

Right, but Warmoth is +3 bows which is a bit better since it speeds up getting the feat and increases both damage and to hit. You can tack on another +3 to hit or better +3 damage.

Don't forget that Warmoth is very light compared to the +3 bows you can buy at Port Kruudad, so you can cast spells while you have it equiped.
What really disappoints me is that you cannot enchant arrows
[I'm guessing it is because of balance issues]

In this particular case, yeah, I guess the Warmoth is still useful -- just because the feat for Bows is so fantastic. However, even if you enchant for damage, you are still getting a total of +4 bonus damage, +1 to +2 regular damage (half as damaging, remember) and +1 to +2 to hit. With a regular bow you'd get +6 bonus damage and +3 to hit.

I may have overestimated the number of them... But the Hexedge, Splitsunder, and Gloomwrought at least appear to be pretty bad.

okashii wrote: What really disappoints me is that you cannot enchant arrows

You can enchant arrows, but you have to do it one arrow at a time and ingredients are rare for that. When I was testing alchemy recipes I used to do it on thrown weapons.

Yes it works on thrown weapons but it didn't work at all for me with 14 alchemy. [which is enough to put +2 on a thrown weapon]
I just get a message that I cannot imbue this item [tested on normal and milrith arrows]