Armor question

Saxon1974 · Post by **Saxon1974** » November 19th, 2007, 6:36 pm

The Manual says light armor is all leather and chain mail armors. However in game I have some chain mail boots and a hard leather hauberk and they are both listed at heavy armors. Is this a bug?

YouTube · November 19th, 2007, 6:47 pm

More of a typo than a bug.

Originally, chain was going to be considered light armor, but during balancing it was determined than all chain mails should be considered heavy rather than light.

Apparently the manual does not reflect this change. Apologies!

Gribble · Post by **Gribble** » November 19th, 2007, 6:51 pm

Nor does character generation. If you read the description for light armor chain is included.

EDIT: I just found a chest containing a chain coif which was considered light armor.

Saxon1974 · Post by **Saxon1974** » November 19th, 2007, 7:03 pm

BasiliskWrangler wrote:More of a typo than a bug. Originally, chain was going to be considered light armor, but during balancing it was determined than all chain mails should be considered heavy rather than light.

Apparently the manual does not reflect this change. Apologies!

Ok thanks. I think I remember a discussion on this before. So hard leather banded armor is also supposed to be heavy armor? It's that why in game. I was planning on using chainmail thinking it was good enough to only spend points in light armor, but looks like im going need to put points into heavy armor. The light stuff doesn't look very effective, unless your a rogue I guess.

YouTube · November 19th, 2007, 7:23 pm

Well, Light Armor has some really good pieces later on. It can be very effective, especially when pared with a high speed and dexterity which boosts your natural AR.

Gribble · Post by **Gribble** » November 19th, 2007, 7:25 pm

Yeah, but chain looks cooler.

Saxon1974 · Post by **Saxon1974** » November 19th, 2007, 7:36 pm

Gribble wrote:Yeah, but chain looks cooler.

So true

LethalBlade · Post by **LethalBlade** » November 20th, 2007, 12:56 am

I was planning on going all heavy armor, but I've noticed things like cloaks and belts are light armor. Are there heavy versions of these, or should I invest some points in light armor to complement the heavy?

YouTube · November 20th, 2007, 12:57 am

There is at least one heavy cloak and a couple heavy belts that can be found/bought.

Sakar · Post by **Sakar** » November 28th, 2007, 9:26 pm

Is it *just* a typo on the Hauberk?

When I take off my rusty plate (Heavy) and put the chainmail hauberk on, my damage reduction drops from 6 to 4. I have 6 pts in Heavy Armor skill and only 1 in Light Armor. So it seems to me that it's more than just a typo...

AUDAN · Post by **AUDAN** » November 29th, 2007, 4:17 pm

1. Yes - the Plate looks cooler. My first (and only for now) character with whom I won the game was in full (almost) Adamantine Plate Set and he looked really cool - very shiny and with some golden elements.

2. Yes - like Thomas said - Light Armor Items have many bonuses unlike Heavy Armor items which nearly haven't any (besides additional armor but that can be Imbued by yourselfs anyway). But Heavy Armor have the most points of Armor therefore the lowest chance of successful enemy hit.

So it's a matter of a personal preference.

3. About Cloak in particular: Yes - like Thomas said - there are Heavy Cloak, but the Light ones are with really irreplaceable bonuses (in my opinion).

So you can have 1 point of Light Armor for Cloaks from a book and everything will be fine

For my new character I consider Light Armor build for some Ranger (like Arcane Archer), but I still strongly hesitate.

Loriac · Post by **Loriac** » November 29th, 2007, 5:09 pm

Having gone through the game and seen a few of the end-game pieces, I have to say that I now think that light armor is the way to go. With the ability to imbue armor +3 for each piece, heavy armor is not actually all that different to light armor in terms of AR. The light armor also seems to have most of the really good pieces (I can think of a single set of gauntlets as being an exception to this rule, but you can get a ring that does exactly what they do, and wear two of them).

For a generalist character, its almost a no-brainer - particularly when you factor in strength and casting (I say this from a convenience point of view, I hate switching to cast spells).

For a melee character without access to alchemy, and who doesn't want to imbue items, heavy may be better. However, this is a bit of a stretch imo.

Also, I'm a bit confused on what chainmail should be. In my game, half the chainmail pieces are light armor, and are treated as such by the engine, whilst the other half are heavy (and treated as such). Should they all be heavy? If so, this may be a bug?